Here's a stupid question

"4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30" (4muddyfeet) 05/14/2015 at 07:04 • Filed to: None

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Do you think vehicles gain or lose weight as they get older? I don’t mean Car X Mk1 compared to Car X Mk2, rather the same car during it’s period of ownership. Theories please.

Cé hé sin > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:10

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Well, you need to balance:

(1) weight loss through rust

(2) weight gained through mud in every crevice and detritus in the car

Depends if you live in a rust inducing place or not but I’d guess weight gain over lifetime. Same applies to your car.

505Turbeaux > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:12

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I think it stays about the same, clean. You are losing some to rust or erosion - even out of the engine. But then again all those french fries gathering under your seat you cant get at do pile up too (and dust and crap into the carpets and seats)

BATC42 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:13

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A lot of the car parts will lose weight because of corrosion and other chemical phenomenon. Not enough for anyone to notice on a modern car though.

On the other hand, you’ll have the gunk that will clutter in the engine and exhaust because of combustion (remember those engines full of carbon desposits that get featured from time to time around these parts?).

All in all, it would be pretty difficult for anyone to notice a change in weight.

thebigbossyboss > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:18

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Gain. Noone in a brand new car carries around jumper cables, tire irons and the like. I carry all the crap, plus a spare headlight, plus pliers, plus washer fluid, plus oil. Hmmm maybe I should also carry around coolant. Plus I have other assorted crap also.

thebigbossyboss > 505Turbeaux 05/14/2015 at 07:18

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plus jumper cables. plus spare parts. plus oils. lol.

KatzManDu > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:19

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Always gains weight; debris from passengers and dirt adds up and hides in places you can’t get to in car washes. Run your hands across the top of an anti-sway bar. The gains may not be noticeable, though.

Reminds me of a story — remember weight and balance is important on an airplane. A guy was having his airplane re-rigged and re-weighed after some major equipment modifications (as-is required.) The weight seemed about 25-30 pounds too high and the airplane kept wanting to dip to one side. They drained all the fuel tanks, etc and saw that one side of the airplane (there are scales on each of the three wheels) was heavier than the others and they couldn’t account for the difference.

Buried under the instrument panel in an area that is difficult to access they found a dead, mummified beaver that must have crawled up through the landing gear and made its nest there.

For cars there have been class-action lawsuits against Volvo (and others) as some of the areas used to intake air conditioning air and force out moisture became places where mice and rats could nest.

plak424 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 07:39

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I would definitely say gain because of all of the crud that gets picked up and stuck in the under side/engine bay over time. Then when you have enough rust where pieces start to fall off you start to lose.

Unrelated but how do I post to the front page of oppo?

yamahog > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 08:47

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Most certainly weight loss due to rust on my XJ at least.

Connqr > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 09:00

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Only if the car is Italian. The electrics will turn to dust and will blow put of the car. Also every time it rains you will los a few pounds from metal disintegration.

Connqr > thebigbossyboss 05/14/2015 at 09:02

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Don’t forget the zip-ties!

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > Connqr 05/14/2015 at 09:37

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I have an Italian car and literally none of that has ever happened. I also own a British car which fits your description perfectly.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > yamahog 05/14/2015 at 09:45

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British cars don’t lose weight, just gain character.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > plak424 05/14/2015 at 09:51

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http://oppositeblog.kinja.com/being-a-corner…

AthomSfere > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 10:01

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A Tuner owned car, lose. Carbon fiber replaces metal, parts removed. Lighter weight intakes, exhausts, rear seats and crap removed... Lighter wheels.

MM54 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 11:23

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My Crown Vic has been undergoing self-lightening at least since I got it. I know this because I’ve swept most of the fender and all of both rocker panels off the driveway.

Connqr > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/14/2015 at 12:53

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I meant British/French/Italian most of the time, not exceptions to the rule.

plak424 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 05/15/2015 at 09:44

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Thanks!